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In many cases, these companies don’t settle your tax debt. Some don’t even send your paperwork to the IRS to apply for programs to help you. These companies often leave people even further in debt.
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We know we’ve been “ghost” for a little while and all we can say is that a lot has happened during the period that we were all dealing with Covid-19. Part of what happened is we were in the Bat Cave deep in work. So today we have two VERY special announcements to make.
ANNOUNCEMENT #1 – The launch of Make My Money Make Sense
We’re very pleased to announce the launch of Make My Money Make Sense – our new financial education and money management website!
This site has been in “development” for a little over 2 years and is the culmination of all those YouTube videos we’ve created. 😁It talks about all things money management for businesses and individuals via our blog, videos and course page.
While it’s being rolled out with a small amount of content, look for it to quickly grow as we finalize some things in the very near future.
A few quick links to check out:
• Blog article explaining the site and related video explaining George Floyd’s inspiration of this endeavor (we bypassed the beginning of the video so it starts right at the point where Jared tells the story of creating the YouTube channel – which ultimately was being done to roll videos into this site upon completion).
ANNOUNCEMENT #2 – The launch of our first online course
With the launch of Make My Money Make Sense – comes the launch of our first online course! How to File Back Taxes – A Step By Step Guide is now available for purchase. This course is an expansion of our most viewed YouTube video How To File Back Tax Returns | TCC and will teach:
- Those who have back taxes and are looking for a course how to solve them via a DIY method or,
- Tax professionals who want to learn the nuances of filing back tax returns so they can either solve their client’s problems OR learn how to add this valuable service offering to their product line up.
To celebrate, from now until 11:30PM CST on December 31st 2022, customers can get it for 50% off the $97 normal price. To claim the discount use the coupon code “HOLIDAY50” at checkout (case sensitive). If you have any issues using the code just contact us via the email or phone number in the footer of this post.
That’s all for now. Look for us to get back to creating blog content on a more “regular” basis in the very near future!
So back when we started our YouTube channel in 2020, we had a goal of getting to 500 subscribers by June of 2021. Well, while we didn’t get there by June, we’re pleased to say that we reached 500 subscribers on August 5th 2021 thanks to your help!
So…thank you, thank you, thank you so VERY MUCH to everyone for helping us reach more people to help them with understanding their money and achieving their wealth goals. But now, we’ve got a new goal, and that goal is to get to 750 subscribers by December 31st 2021. To do that, we’ve got a really awesome contest that everyone can enter whether they are or aren’t a current subscriber of our channel.
If you’re not subscribed to the channel, all you have to do is just head on over to our channel page. Once there, click the little subscribe button and then make sure you click that little bell icon so it turns grey. That way, you’ll get notifications whenever we upload a new video.
Once you’ve done that, just take a picture or screenshot of your subscription page and shoot it to us via and email by clicking this link. It’s just that simple!
Now if you’re already subscribed, you can still play along and win too. All you have to do is just send an email to some of your closest friends or colleagues inviting them to subscribe to the channel. We put a sample email in the description of this YouTube video to make it really easy for you to just cut paste and send.
Once you’ve sent the email, just either send us a picture of that email or you can actually just BCC us on the email when it goes out. Now don’t worry, we’re not gonna take your friend’s email addresses and spam people or anything like that. ? In the end, you can do whatever your comfortable with. All we need is proof that you’re telling people about the channel.
So what’s the prize? We’ll on Labor Day (9/6/21) we’ll pick 5 lucky winners who will receive a 100% FREE autographed copy of Jared’s book How To Slash Your Taxes Legally and Ethically. Hey, what better way to work on minding your money then by learning how you can save on your taxes for FREE right?
Once again, we thank you all so much for helping us get to our 500 subscriber goal and here’s to us getting to 750 by December 31st.
Many Americans often find themselves broke and living paycheck to paycheck. But why does this happen? Is it because of lack of income/earnings? Is it due to not having certain “higher” level education or degrees like a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree from college? Is it because of certain race, gender, sexual preference or other items which can be discriminated against? Contrary to popular belief, it’s NOT just tied to how much money a person makes.
George Floyd’s Impact, Inspiration and Legacy
In early 2020, because of the tragic murder and death of George Floyd, Americans were forced to confront some realities that some would rather not. His death, on top of many Americans being out of work due to the Covid-19 Pandemic, was just enough to push us into a tailspin of social unrest. The resulting looting, rioting and “every person for themselves” mentality which followed, made one thing clear (if it was to no one other than ourselves). Through no fault of their own, many Americans are only one paycheck away from disaster.
This can be a small disaster like missing a cell phone bill, a cable bill or not having enough to go out and eat at your favorite restaurant. Or it could be a serious disaster like missing a rent or mortgage payment, getting evicted, or having to turn to a food pantry for help.
Our good friend, and client, Ashanti Johnson over at 360 Mind Body Soul here in Chicago, encouraged us to start a video series in connection with a virtual wellness summit that our CEO, Jared Rogers, participated in. Check out this specific point in Episode 10 where Jared shares a snippet of her summit and talks about George Floyd and the resulting motivation to launch the series.
In the end, seeing as we deal with money on a day-in and day-out basis, it only made sense that we should work to share the knowledge we have built up over the years with those who need it the most. So, through a culmination of all of the above, we decided that we had an obligation to do more.
Minding My Money Mondays & Tax Chit Chat
Minding My Money Mondays (#MMMM) was the YouTube series that was directly birthed following the events after Mr. Floyd’s death. In early December, we created a separate series called Tax Chit Chat (#TCC) that is for those looking specifically for just tax tips. All videos will ultimately get rolled into a much larger money management website (hopefully by early H2 of 2021), but in the interim, you can follow both series by subscribing to our YouTube channel. Each series has it’s own playlist and releases videos according to it’s prescribed schedule.
Video Episode Listing
Shown below is a listing of the episodes that were created through the date of this blog post. They go from most recent back to the very first episode. To catch an episode, simply click the title above the video thumbnail and you’ll be taken directly to it within YouTube. It’s our sincere hope that that you:
- Enjoy the videos and learn from them
- Spread the word on social media via the hashtags #MMMM and #TCC as we really hope to help people “Make My Money Make Sense!”
- Eventually join us on the money management website once it’s launched
- Send us questions and video suggestions at email@example.com as we hope to help everyone learn how to better manage their money and avoid financial disaster (although NO ONE saw a Covid-19 type event coming).
You may have heard about the IRS seizing a taxpayers assets for unpaid taxes. These can include, among other things, the vehicles that they own. So the short answer to the question is yes, the IRS can seize a taxpayers vehicle. But let’s discuss the mechanics of how it gets to this point and some other important items shall we?
Why does the IRS seize vehicles? The first thing to know is that if you owe the IRS under $5000, your assets may not necessarily be seized and sold off. Per the 2019 IRS Data Book, in 2018 and 2019 the IRS seized a total of 275 and 228 assets respectively. Also, if you lease property, then you aren’t the legal owner. The IRS can’t seize items you don’t own, unless you have built up equity, or an ownership interest, in a leased asset. For most items, such as a rented auto, you won’t have any equity or it will be too small for the IRS to consider.
In the instances above, the IRS will seek to satisfy the collection of the debt owed through other means. This could include garnishing your income or seizing your federal tax refund. Now if the debt is substantial, then that’s where vehicle seizure comes into play.
The IRS utilizes progressively serious methods to try to collect your tax debt before seizing your vehicle. It will begin by informing you of your tax debt and giving you the opportunity to pay it. When they have sent numerous notices and attempted to collect, but have been unable to or can’t communicate with you regarding a reasonable plan for repaying your debt, it will proceed to file a federal tax lien against you. The Notice of Federal Tax Lien will alert creditors that the government has a legal right to your property.
Once other methods of collection have been exhausted, the IRS will use its power to seize assets by use of a levy. An IRS levy permits the legal seizure of your property to satisfy a tax debt.
How does the IRS seize a vehicle? A typical IRS seizure usually goes as follows:
- Local law enforcement accompanies IRS Revenue Officers so they are not interfered with nor attacked.
- The Revenue Officers will present their credentials to the taxpayer as well as the order (typically from a judge) that states they have a right to take the property.
- The IRS contractors (e.g. towing companies) will then secure the asset and remove it from the property for storage at a IRS facility.
We scoured the internet for a video showing an actual IRS vehicle seizure in process. This very dated video is all we could come up with. Regardless of how old it is, note how high the tension is!
What does the IRS do with the seized vehicles? The first thing that happens is that the vehicle gets moved to a storage facility. Next, the taxpayer is usually given one last attempt to settle the debt and reclaim the asset. But simultaneously, the IRS post public notice that the item is available for purchase from the US Government.
Generally speaking, the vehicle will be sold off relatively quickly, usually at an auction that is open to the public. The money raised from the sale is then applied to the tax debt that you owe to the IRS. The goal of seizing assets is to satisfy the debt as quickly as possible since you failed to pay it off yourself.
The image below shows seized vehicles by the IRS and how they notify the public of an auction. Anyone want to purchase a 2018 Ferrari??
How to avoid seizure. The best way to avoid having your assets seized is to file your taxes and pay what you owe on time each year. However, if you cannot fulfill either of these obligations, you should communicate with the IRS and be honest about your financial situation.
You could be eligible for a payment arrangement, which would allow you to pay off your debt in monthly payments. The arrangement will take into consideration:
- How much money you make
- Your household size
- How much you pay in rent, utilities, and other basic expenses
- The total value of your assets
The IRS will then determine a monthly amount that you should be able to pay toward your debt. In extraordinary situations, your tax debt could be forgiven. Forgiving a tax debt is a rare occurrence. However, it could be possible if you experience hardships like:
- High medical costs
- Death of an immediate family member
- Terminal illness
- Job loss
- Slowing down of your business
In early 2020, the Covid-19 pandemic forced many businesses to alter their operations. At best, this meant converting brick and mortar offerings into virtual options. At worst, it meant shutting down until stay-at-home orders were lifted. But now that restrictions are being lifted, some are still finding it hard to get back to “normal” so to speak. Well, an option that might help one achieve that normal could be a virtual assistant.
What is a virtual assistant?
A virtual assistant (VA), as the name implies, is an assistant that helps and supports your business virtually. This does not mean that the person is a robot or some type of computer. It simply means that the person is based at a remote location and not within your office. A VA is trained to assist you, and your business, when called upon.
Advancements in technology, the presence of the internet, along with document-sharing and other business-related software, makes it easier for people to work remotely. Because many businesses no longer “need” people to physically be present at the same location for them to work, VAs could be a good option for some.
What services does a VA offer?
Depending what needs your business has, a VA can assist with almost any and every work-related task. Some of the most common tasks that a business will allocate to a VA include:
- Operational and administrative tasks
- Phone management
- Event management
- Managing calendars, appointments and emails
- Preparing reports
- Personal tasks like booking hotels and restaurants
- Social media management
- Content management
- Simple digital marketing tasks
- Community management
- Website design
Take one of our clients for example. Edmond Virtual Assistant Services offers VA services here in the greater Chicagoland area. Their offerings are centered around four areas/groupings:
- Executive Support
- Marketing & Social Media
- Special Services
In addition to the above, companies can hire role-specific VAs to handle specialized duties as well. In these scenarios, VAs have a specific skill set that only allows them to tackle just one operational area. For example, the person could only work on tasks associated with sales and marketing, public relations, or customer service.
How can a VA help you survive Covid-19?
Many businesses have had to try and retool their operations in the wake of Covid-19. If you’ve had to close your brick-and-mortar location, but still have the ability to sell your goods virtually, a VA could be a key addition. Even if you are still operating a physical location offering something like curbside pickup, a VA could function remotely to help take customer calls, schedule pickups and coordinate orders. With that said, here are some additional ways that a VA might be able to help you weather this storm.
Reduce operational costs. Since VAs work on their own from a remote location, businesses can save money related to their own location and equipment costs. Furthermore, since the concept of a VA states that the person would be providing their services on a contract basis, VAs have an unsaid understanding with companies to not expect payment unless they are actually working or producing deliverables.
Access to needed skills. One of the foremost reasons why small businesses and solopreneurs hire VAs is to get easy access to skills and expertise, which otherwise would either be too costly to hire for or too time-consuming to do by ones self. Remember, most entrepreneurs are good at what they trained or went to school for. Administrative tasks don’t always fall within their wheelhouse.
Imagine you’re an entrepreneur running a small restaurant that only offered in-person dining pre-Covid-19. Now you are going to offer carry-out as well as curbside pickup, but you don’t have the technology structure in place to make that happen quickly nor seamlessly.
While you can choose to do so by going the long route of hiring a person or technology firm, the option of hiring a hit-the-ground-running “tech” VA could be the more beneficial route. This enables you to quickly get things in place in no time in a much more cost-effective manner.
Maintain Quality service. The simplest reason for most companies to hire VA is to have efficient business operations in place. Hiring a VA enables businesses to employ reasonable resources to fulfill tasks that internal employees either don’t have the time for or aren’t qualified enough to tackle.
Let’s say that your business has had to reduce staff levels to try and survive financially. You’re operating with a limited skeleton crew or worse, you simply had to let people go. Some of those people, might have been really talented workers or those with years of expertise. Now your stuck trying to “limp along” until things get better. This might even mean the business owner doing things they don’t really know how to, nor want to do. Furthermore, they could find themselves simply doing too much, which leads to increased production times, order fulfillment or decreased customer satisfaction.
Having a VA in place to assist with some of the mission critical operations at this time could be just what is needed.
Decreasing the owners workload. Have you found yourself in a situation lately where you missed your kid’s activity (e.g. school e-learning Zoom) because you were either too busy handling “things” or because “something came up” at work?
Saving time and decreasing your workload go hand-in-hand when it comes to outlining the benefits of hiring a VA. Having a VA who can handle those “things” or tackle that “something at work” can help you find more time and therefore reduce your increased workload.
Time management. Hiring VAs empowers businesses to utilize their time more efficiently. For example, would you rather waste four hours a day doing tasks like cleaning out your inbox or spend those four hours conceptualizing innovative strategies to help your business survive?
That’s a no-brainer, right? Having a VA working for you to handle such tasks that could potentially eat up your time, helps you regain lost time that you can invest in working on your business rather than in it.
Promote your ability to service customers during Covid-19. There are many businesses that are NOT open for “business as usual” as a result of this pandemic. Getting a VA on board can help a business focus on multiple advertising tasks at the same time to let customers know that you ARE open and ready to accept customers business.
This may include promoting availability on social media, running online campaigns, or submitting stories to newspapers. Having someone dedicated to keeping consumers up to date on a businesses’ sometimes “ever changing” Covid-19 operations, could just be the difference between staying open in the long run or turning out the lights for good!
Maximizing your tax deductions as a real estate broker or agent is not solely about finding things to deduct. While that is a large part of it, also involved is being knowledgeable about what is deductible AND then tracking said deductions. I mean, if you fail to track what you can deduct, then how can you actually deduct it? Sure, you can estimate or even make it up. But guess what? That is a sure-fire way to have the IRS disallow the expense if they decide to audit your return.
To ensure that you don’t miss any business related expenses paid for during the tax year, it’s recommended that one use a tax organizer. Feel free to use our handy dandy tax organizer (checklist) as a starting point.
From there, make sure that you aren’t forgetting any of the expenses typically deducted by those in your profession. What are those? While this list is not entirely inclusive or comprehensive, it does cover most of the major items:
- Business Cards
- Copy Editor Fees
- Direct Mail
- Email Marketing and Newsletters
- Internet Ads (Google, Facebook, etc.)
- Leads/Mailing Lists
- Post Cards
- Print Ads (Newspapers and Magazines)
- Promotional Materials
- Web Hosting and Domain Fees
- Car Washes
- Car Rental
- Taxi, Train, Subway, Bus
- Answering Services
- Cell Phone Service
- Fax Expenses/eFax
- Internet Service
- Office Telephone/VOIP
- Cleaning Equipment
- Hard Drives/Thumb Drives
- iPad/Tablet PC/Android
- Lock Boxes/Locksmiths/Keys
- Clerical Support
- Family Wages (e.g. kids/spouses)
- Payroll/Unemployment Taxes
- Sales Assistant
- Virtual Assistant
- Desk Fees
- Client Refreshments (Coffee, Water, etc.)
- Copier Fees
- Janitorial Services
- Office Furniture
- Office Supplies
- Office Rent
- Online Storage of Business Files
- Association Dues/Fees
- Chamber of Commerce
- Bookkeeping Fees
- Business Licenses
- E & O Insurance
- Franchise/Affiliation Fees
- Legal Fees
- MLS Fees
- Tax Prep Fees
- Defined Benefit Plan
- Simplified Employee Pension (SEP)
- Simple IRA
- Solo 401k
Training & Improvement
- Books (Sales Books, Real Estate Books, etc.)
- Continuing Education
- Newsletter Subscriptions
- Sales Training/Coaching
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Jared’s latest book, The Real Estate Brokers Little Black Tax Book is chock full of tips and strategies to help you cut your tax bill. Sure, you can buy it by clicking the book image at the top of this page, BUT, if you head over to this super secret page, you can get some free goodies. Like see a video where Jared discusses the book and get the free white paper, The 10 Tax Issues Broker Face. So what are you waiting for? The sooner you take action, the sooner you can keep more of your hard earned commissions in YOUR pocket and out of the hands of Uncle Sam!
As I write this, the world is at a standstill due to Covid-19. Riding my bike during a recent rain storm reminded me of an important life lesson. What was the lesson? That the sun always shines brightest after a rain storm!
Anyone who knows me is aware of the fact that I love cycling. Not only do I ride bikes, I race them at the amateur level. It’s this racing aspect that requires me to do tons of training, especially during the summer. So today, even though there was the threat of rain, I decided to go for a decent ride (40 miles). It was my hope, that I would at least be able to make it to the halfway point without getting soaked.
I was fortunate enough to make it to mile 20 with zero precipitation. But when I turned North to head back home, I could see the storms clouds off in the distance. What was “worse” was that I could hear tons of thunder. While it sounds super cool, typically where there’s thunder there’s lightning. By the way the storm was tracking, I could tell that I was going to miss the brunt of it. But there was a chance that I would get caught by the edge, if I didn’t high tail it back home.
Head down and pushing hard, I told myself if I could get 5 miles North, I might be okay. But about 3 miles up the road, the clouds opened up and started to pour big drops of rain. Not a problem for me. I like being in the rain, and always have since I was a kid. While others sought shelter during storms, I was the weirdo out splashing in puddles just soaking it up. Thunder, lightning, wind and all. Blame the Aquarian in me; it’s the sign of the water bearer! Heck, I did’t even own an umbrella until I started my professional career.
So I kept pushing on, getting wet and marveling at the thunder and how loud it was. However, there was lightning. At first it wasn’t a big deal and the strikes were intermittent. But then there was one strike that was super bright and a little too close to home for me. The one thing that all cyclist are trained is that if there is lightning, it’s best to seek shelter. I mean, it’s not a great idea to be rolling around on a tiny piece of metal when there is a bunch of electricity in the air! So I saw a archway at a building and decided to wait it out. Maybe it was a church? Maybe it was a school? Maybe it was a Catholic school which is why I thought it was a church? Who knows.
As I stood under the archway I was wet, but out of the rain and hopefully clear of getting stuck by lightning. I checked the radar and it looked like the rain was going to 100% stop in about 20 minutes. I text my wife so she would know that I was waiting it out and was safe. Once the worst part of the storm passed, I got back on the bike and resumed my ride. As I was riding, the sun came out as if the almighty themselves had parted the clouds to say hello. It was in that moment that I was reminded of the life lesson I mentioned above. It was also when I decided to take that picture around Wolf Lake!
When we humans are faced with adversity, challenge, struggle and the like, we often go through several phases. In honor of the letter “R” (like my last name) I have named these phases:
You may not have noticed these phases above, but if you go back you can see them all. I rejected the fact that I was about to get caught in a thunderstorm. I resolved that it would happen and sought shelter. During this time, I reset and prepared to ride home wet and in the rain. Once the worst was past, I resumed my ride. Lastly, when the sun came out, I rejoiced and almost forgot about the dangerous lightning that I had been riding through.
While things seem bad and scary around the world right now, it’s good to keep the cycle above in mind. At some point in time, this too will pass. It will be behind us and a long way down the road, it will feel like a distant memory. Right now we may be in the reset phase. All of the Summer sporting activities I love, the lakefront trail, vacations and gatherings with friends are put on hold. I’ve resolved myself to believe that we won’t be able to “resume” until we get to 2021. Hopefully at that time, I can head to the track and “go fast and turn left” with all of my friends as the 2020 season has pretty much been shelved.
Until then, let’s all try to keep one another safe. Practice good hygiene, make sure you social distance, protect the most vulnerable around you and remember to tell those you care about, that you love them on a frequent basis. But never forget, after a storm, the sun always shines bright!
When a homeowner wants to sell their home, but it is encumbered with an Federal tax lien (i.e. IRS Form 668(Y)), they might feel as if all hope is lost. But alas, it isn’t. In this post we’ll outline what to do if you are facing this situation and the exact steps to take.
The first thing to note is that if there is a federal tax lien on your home, you must satisfy the lien before you can sell or refinance it. Yet, there are a number of options to satisfy the tax lien. For some, if you have equity in your property, the tax lien can be paid (in part or in whole depending on the equity) out of the sales proceeds at the time of closing. For others, if the home is being sold for less than the lien amount, the taxpayer can request the IRS discharge the lien to allow for the completion of the sale. Additionally, taxpayers or lenders also can ask that a federal tax lien be made secondary to the lending institution’s lien to allow for the refinancing or restructuring of a mortgage. Let’s now look at what happens under each scenario.
Proceeds Satisfy The Debt – Get A Tax Lien Payoff
If the amount received from the sale will satisfy the amount of IRS debt owed, then one simply needs to obtain tax lien payoff amount.
An updated lien payoff or balance due amount may be requested from the IRS Collections Advisory Group. This unit will issue a payoff letter to taxpayers or to third parties such as taxpayer representatives, lenders, and escrow or title companies. The letter will indicate the current amount that must be paid before the IRS releases the lien.
Third parties must submit their request in writing accompanied by a properly completed Form 8821, Tax Information Authorization, signed by the taxpayer. Without a Form 8821, the IRS cannot disclose
taxpayer information to third parties. The Form 8821 must address each tax period on the notice of lien and be received by the IRS within 60 days after the taxpayer signs and dates it.
Payoff requests can be made by phone (1-800-913-6050), fax (1-855-753-8177) or by mail sent to:
Internal Revenue Service
Centralized Lien Operation
P.O. Box 145595, Stop 8420G
Cincinnati, OH 45250-5595
Payoff computations may take up to 14 calendar days to process. Two copies of all payoff letters are mailed to the requester. One copy of the payoff letter must be returned with the payment to ensure proper application and timely release of the lien. To ensure expedited processing the payment must be sent to the address identified on the payoff letter. Payments should be made payable to the United States Treasury.
Proceeds Don’t Satisfy The Debt – Obtain Lien Subordination or Discharge
What is a discharge or subordination and how can it help you sell or refinance your property? A discharge removes an entire asset (collateral) from being covered by the tax lien so that it may transfer to the new owner free of the lien. To apply for a Lien Discharge, one completes IRS Form 14135. A subordination is used to put the IRS’ position in 2nd priority. It is used to “unlock” an asset so that another creditor can be paid before the tax lien is paid (e.g. bank loan refinancing). To apply for a Lien Subordination, one completes IRS Form 14134.
Now let’s look at the specific steps on how to complete each application. To help you with the application process, you might want to review IRS Publication 783 or IRS Publication 784, which contain instructions on filling out the forms, have the application forms themselves, along with FAQ’s.
The first item of note is that the application for discharge or subordination is handled on a first come, first served basis. As such, one needs to get either application to the IRS at least 45 days before the sale or loan settlement meeting. If the Notice of Federal Tax Lien is discovered late, or the application isn’t submitted in time, the sale or loan could be delayed. If you’re trying to avoid foreclosure, be sure to indicate this on your application and the IRS will do its best to expedite your request.
- Sections 1, 2, and 3 of either the discharge Form 14135 or the subordination Form 14134 are self-explanatory.
- If you are using a representative, fill in Section 4, and be sure to indicate who is being represented. While having a representative is not required, if you hired someone to represent and speak on your behalf, attach IRS Form 2848. Both of you must sign this form. If you want the IRS to share your information with someone else, you would attach IRS Form 8821. If you are attaching one or both of these forms, check the “yes” box in Section 4.
- In Section 5, you would fill in the contact information for your finance company.
- The information in Section 6 will vary depending on the type of transaction. If you are selling, use Form 14135 and enter the sales price. If you are refinancing or getting a loan, use Form 14134 and enter both your existing and new loan amounts.
- Section 7 asks for your basis for discharge or subordination. Basically, you need to check the box that best addresses what you would like the IRS to consider as the reason why they should approve your application.
- Section 8 for either application form asks for a description of your property, which could be either real estate or personal property such as art work, a boat, a plane, or your business receivables. Don’t forget to provide the property address.
- For Section 9 of Form 14135, when you are selling property, the IRS requires a professional appraisal, which is generally part of the closing package and a second type of value estimate. Form 14134 Section 9 does not call for a professional appraisal for your refinance or loan. Check the box for the type of value estimate you are including.
- Sections 10 through 14 are a checklist of the attachments which you must include with either the discharge or subordination application form.
- These next two sections only pertain to Discharge Form 14135.
- If your property will be sold in an escrow sale, with creditors paid from the escrow, the IRS needs your draft escrow agreement with your Form 14135. Be sure to check the “attached” box in Section 15.
- Section 16 of Form 14135 is if you bought property with a lien attached where you are not the taxpayer and you checked 6325(b)(2)(A) or (B) as your basis for discharge in Section 7.
- The final section on both forms is the Declaration. Here is where you must sign and date your application under penalties of perjury.
At this point, your form should be complete. Attach all your supporting paperwork and send your application package to one of the IRS Advisory Offices. The correct mailing address of the IRS Advisory Office will be found in IRS Publication 4235. It will be the one for the state that the Notice of Federal Tax Lien was filed in.
The IRS Advisory approves or denies your request based on your application and comparison with federal and state property rules. If the IRS approves your application, they will send you your discharge or subordination certificate, based on what box you checked, or best applies to you in Section 7. If, however, the IRS denies your request, or you disagree with the IRS valuation in a commitment letter, you can request an appeal through the Advisory office using IRS Form 9423, Collection Appeal Request. IRS Publication 1660, Collection Appeal Rights, explains your appeal rights.
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